Saturday 9th June, 7:15pm UK/8:15pm local
Pro 7 and naughty internet streaming
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Schlag den Henssler is back from its Sommerpause, and a plucky contestant will be attempting to win the €250,000 by besting celebrity chef Stefan Henssler over 15 mystery events. Celebrity musical guests include Kovacs, Aloe Blacc and Vanessa Mai featuring Olexesh! I know! THE Vanessa Mai (not the one you’re thinking of)!
As ever, we’ll be here attempting to provide commentary, gossip and games, and we’re likely to be a while so do feel free to dip in and out.
Watching the live Pro 7 stream might be a bit more difficult than it has been previously.
Our commentary stream link will appear here – live from 7:15 to around midnight.
This stream is commentary only. You will need to have a naughty stream running at the same time for the visuals. We are likely to be about 15-20 seconds behind the visual stream (and about a full minute behind if you’re watching an actual satellite feed), sorry.The Opera VPN has apparently stopped being useful for SdH. Bother’s Bar recommends shelling out for a proper VPN service. Bother’s Bar uses Tunnelbear, other VPN services are available. Matt Clemson recommends Windscribe as a free alternative. We cannot take responsibility for anything you do to your system, so be careful and use some common sense.
To watch it would be useful to sign up for ProSieben’s catch-up service – it’s pretty simple to work out, don’t click the box if you don’t want e-mail messages. You will need to put in a proper e-mail because it will send you a confirmation.
If anyone knows of any relatively safe livestreams, do feel free to share.
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I think they should do a UK version of this next year in the slot when Saturday Night Takeaway would normally be on. I half-remember a version of this hosted by Vernon Kay about 10 years ago, but from what I can remember I don’t think it was all that good. I can’t think who should be the opponent (our version of Henssler) in our version as I can’t think of anyone multi-talented enough. Maybe different opponents for different challenges to get around that problem, but that takes away some of the point of the show.
For those interested in a Fort Boyard Germany update, a trailer aired tonight during Promi Big Brother, and it featured a Pierre Fouras character as well as the cage and Mister Boo! So it looks like it will be a direct interpretation of the format France is running right now.
Nice!
Normally I wouldn’t point this out, but this is quite amusing, it’s Pere Fouras rather than Pierre Fouras, Pere is ‘father’ in French, although I’m dying for a Pierre Fouras character next year in the Boyard Academy now.
I’m cautiously hopeful for the German version – although I with they’d gone with the Swedish team vs team version as I think this is the most pacy and engaging version about at the moment.
Somehow I feel like it could be a great show without an audience. Sat.1 really has trouble getting people interested in the shows the air, but everything I have seen/heard/read so far seems to be indicators for a good version of Fort Boyard. I really hope they will do well and make it for more than one season. I think the brand could be important for German television in general as it would bring in another colour into the mix.
A weak showing from Henssler last night, I felt. A few games that straight away we knew he would lose – he’s always bad at the go-kart racing ones, for example!
Not the best show last night. Was obvious from the outset that Henssler was going to lose. This despite him making probably his best effort yet!
I know Nico mentioned on Twitter it was a competitive night, so here is what was shown and their ratings
ARD – Gefragt Gejagt (The Chase) – 3.82m (17.6%)
RTL – Denn sie wissen nichts was passiert (They don’t know what’s going to happen) – 2.61m (12.5%)
Sat.1 – Promi Big Brother (Celeb BB) – 1.73m (9.2%) (10.15 to midnight)
Pro7 – Schlag den Henssler – 0.96m (5.4%)
And in the advertiser friendly 14-49 ratings.
RTL – 0.95m (15.5%)
Sat.1 – 0.89m (14.5%)
ARD – 0.72m (11.4%)
Pro7 – 0.63m (11.5%)
The show (Raab and Star) has been involved in 3-way or even 4-way entertainment battles before, but it always more than held its own. That Pro7 is 4th (3rd in share) in the list of shows last night will hurt, especially behind ARD in 14-49 viewers. Publicly, Pro7 have committed to 3 episodes until the end of the year (last night, 22nd Sept and a third). But on whether the show will continue next year, they’re saying nothing?!
I do think they might switch back to the Schlag den Star format next year. The ratings weren’t too bad, prize money cheaper too. Henssler has lost 3 of the 4 shows this year, and whilst Pro7 were always going to pay out prize money, I think they’ll be disappointed with the ease in which it’s happened. Viewers are deserting it and advertisers will do so too. It’s lost nearly half its viewers since launch last September.
I don’t know how the economics of that works. British digital TV wouldn’t have the money to make a show like SdH for only a million viewers.
Firstly, Pro7 is one of the 8 main TV channels in Germany. It’s not one of the smaller digital channels. It has an entertainment budget akin to BBC One / ITV.
The only budget figure known for certain is that in the last 5 years of Stefan Raab’s time, the combined budget for all of his shows (chat show, game shows, events) was around €37million a year (€185million over 5 years). Based on the fact it’s a big Saturday night show, it must cost in the region of at least €1,000,000 per episode (€250k per hour over a minimum 4 hours), excluding prize money.
The first episode of Henssler grossed €3.8million in ad revenue. In 2014, for SdR, the average per episode was €4.6m. This rose to €5m in 2015 – with only five episodes. I think when profitability begins to drop (which it probably has already done), that’s when they’ll consider making changes.
Perhaps also the fact that its the whole evening’s primetime entertainment helps. British TV would have three or four shows in an evening for the same amount of time.
The celebrity version of the Chase went on for three and a quarter hours last night!
We’re probably one of the only countries in Europe that has more than 2 shows on a big TV evening. Most (france, Spain, Germany, Italy, Netherlands) have one big show, with maybe a second smaller show in late prime.
I’ve always wondered if an irregular 3hr entertainment show would work over here. Then I hear people complain about a 2hr long X Factor and think probably not!
That sounds about right, probably underguessing actually, there was a suggestion Beat the Star was costing a million an episode (and that’s getting on for a decade ago now) and it’s axing wasn’t so much to do with low figures, it was doing 4-5m, but the lack of returns. Similar to The Whole 19 Yards, I gather.
Million Pound Drop – Fortnite edition.
https://youtu.be/BB0Y8FUAxQo