Show Discussion: Password

By | August 31, 2024

Saturdays, 9:40pm,
ITV1

After what seems like forever (we watched a recording of it June 2023), Password finally appears after a fairly successful US Jimmy Fallon reboot. Of course it’s not a new show, we’ve had versions on various channels across the last sixty years or so, although I think the last version here was the Ulster Television one in the mid-1980s so it will be a new show to anyone under the age of about 40 here. And really it doesn’t play a great deal differently from that – contestant and celeb (Alan Carr or Daisy May Cooper) give one word clues to their team mates in the hope they guess the Password and hopefully £10,000. In a nod to modernity there’s an “ask the host” (Stephen Mangan) lifeline but really that’s about it.

Classy set and stylish theme though. We’re extremely intrigued about the strategy for this, this was always destined for a late-night Saturday slot, they were talking about this at the recording, but there’s not really much in it that justifies it having a late night slot, we’re wracking our brains trying to think of another show with proper stakes (ITV Play stuff not counting) that started this late or later. Still, if it’s a success then it opens up the possibility space for more of this sort of thing late night.

Let us know what you think in the comments.

Stool Pigeon – August 2024 – The Results

By | August 29, 2024

To celebrate Oasis returning after a 15 year absence, we’re returning to an old feature we’ve not done for 13 months, we must be “mad for it!!!!!” Also barely anything new has been made, but it feels like the cogs are beginning to turn a bit so let’s see.

The Results

Right, this is the first one for a while, let’s see if it’s been worth the wait. As usual, we don’t know the veracity of statements, only the people making the suggestions know that but we believe there’s a grain of plausibility to many of them, you are advised not to take anything suggested as gospel.

In For a Penny’s USA episode (the shows final episode) was actually meant ton double as a backdoor pilot for it on Disney+, which is why it’s length.

(Other than that, it’s a dry spell, because, look at this industry 😭)

In For A Penny deserves a lot of credit for being the only vox pop show on telly in the world ever to actually have worked. It looks and feels like just as much of a waste of time as all the other ones, but thanks to Mulhern and a good team did succeed in being quite funny. Do you remember that one on BBC where a man ran around streets asking people questions for ten whole pounds? Can you believe nobody gave a toss?

Actually Billy on the Street was good as well. Perhaps if it comes back Stephen Mulhern can just run round London shouting at people, perhaps make that two.

Three from the next person which I’ll split up otherwise you lot will throw a strop.

Wheels are already in motion for who to replace Richard Osman when he bows out of House of Games. Due to his busy schedule of books, films and podcasts he’ll be moving on, even though they’ve moved the production further south.

Having some idea of a succession in place feels like a sensible move as it does feel like an inevitability. I know they filmed some recently, and he’s not mentioned leaving, but that’s for a future press release.

Of course the question is who could replace him? Who is the female version of Richard Osman? The answer of course is Sue Perkins, they wouldn’t even need to change the graphic.

I expect it will be a bit of a thankless role whoever takes over, only for whoever takes over them getting some sort of audience credit. I would hope that the title would legally become Sue Perkins’ (Or Whoever) Richard Osman’s House of Games, and production will shout at anybody not using the full and official title.

Josie Gibson recently hosted a runthrough for ITV for a Saturday early evening adaptation of Dobble. It didn’t get through to pilot stage as ITV are currently only looking for legacy formats.

Yeah I could see Dobble working as a early evening format. They should pitch Josie Gibson’s Don’t Try This At Home.

Which is why Goldenballs is being considered as a return to daytime ITV. Older audiences remember it fondly and the younger generation have rediscovered it on Youtube thanks in part to the Sidemen.

I wasn’t sure what to make of that buuuttt…

A Golden Balls reboot with Roman Kemp is in the early stages of production for next year. I think they’re going for a younger, primetime audience after the success of viral clips (mainly the ‘Split or Steal’ section) from it on TikTok.

It’s incredible to think it’s fifteen years since Golden Balls, I remember going to see the pilot at Teddington but having to leave before the Split or Steal bit to catch a train. You younger kids won’t remember how massive Golden Balls was at the time, and that massiveness was… about half of what The Chase managed at its peak. Still though, this feels like the sort of thing people want to will into existence, I expect it will be similarly flash-in-the-pan, but at least it’s fairly likely there will be a flash.

Double The Money axed by Channel 4

A pity as it turns out, but I’m not sure what other avenues it could go down.

Amanda Holden has recently filmed a pilot for a new show called ‘The Inner Circle’, best described as quiz Golden Balls – my guess is it’s gunning for the early Saturday evening slot. It’s the first foray into the game show world of a production company which previously mainly did documentaries, and the format is genuinely one of the worst things I’ve ever come across.

Oh man, don’t tease us with a car crash like this, I hope Holden was in full Eurovision jury vote giving mode.

Celeb Gladiators is a New Years special

This feels like the sort of thing someone’s just submitted for a laugh. New Year’s Day has become a bit of a blockbuster night in terms of television these days though, probably a bit more than Xmas Day. It’s a Wednesday this year, what if they did Celeb Glads followed by launching S3 of The Traitors? Food for thought. Especially if you’re ITV.

In With A Shout in the danger zone for the chop

It sounds like 99 to Beat will be paired up with the extended Britain’s Got Talent but that’s not going to last through the entire four month extended run, so if not In With A Shout, which didn’t set the world alight but didn’t collapse either, then what? Perhaps it opens up a possibility space for The Floor.

Plan is for a third series of Popmaster TV

No surprise I don’t think.

Romesh’s new game show Parents Evening due to begin in November on Saturday Nights in the 9pm slot on ITV. Glad Stool Pigeon is back missed it!

Ah OK, that suggests it will be going out once Password has finished. There will be a Show Discussion post going up for that on Saturday morning, don’t worry.

The Masked Dancer has not been cancelled, but only ‘rested’, and a return is being eyed for next year

Whhhhyyyyyyyyyy

The upcoming Survivor Aus vs USA season has been expanded to contestants from multiple countries, including the uk reboot from last year. It will be a significantly shorter season though, >20 days

Why aren’t they going down the The Challenge route and calling it The Survivor World Championship? Then when an American doesn’t win, American bloggers can declare it “unofficial”. Anyway, there were only about one person from Survivor UK who’d probably be any good, so good luck Christopher if that’s you.

Early last year MTV filmed a ‘Shore’ type show in Dublin with the working title ‘Life of the Party’. A couple of weeks into filming though the cast were sent home being told filming would resume shortly, but they never picked up filming again..

It’s Eden 2024, sort of!

99 to beat is going to rival Gladiators for number of sad injury edits.

I find it incredible – people being allergic to hay or whatever, fine, unlucky, but 99 to Beat is things like throwing eggs to each other without breaking and winding up toilet rolls not full contact sport, I am absolutely fascinated to find out how many injuries there were by the end of the series.

A potential 2nd run of E4’s Josh Must Win is being talked about, title will be ‘The Underdog: x Must Win’, different celeb panel too

The first one did a bit better than I anticipated, I think, so this shouldn’t be ruled out.

Phew, well perhaps we won’t leave it 13 months until the next one.

Driving Force

By | August 22, 2024

Alright, it’s Schlag den Star this Saturday (join us in the Discord), and Password finally begins next Saturday on the 31st – we’ll have a Show Discussion post up, and you can read a recording report from all the way from June 2023 in the meantime if you want).

However recently on Youtube I came across not one, not two, but THREE episodes of 1980s… how would you describe it? Pro-celebrity motoring vehicle challenge show Driving Force, an annual event hosted by Mike Smith assisted by Stirling Moss and Murray Walker. I vaguely remember it for it’s trials segments, where you try and get an old car up up a hill course between flags but by and large lots of the events are quite inventive and fun.

The first one was from 1984 and features a gamut of 1984 celebrities competing – Rowan Atkinson! Anneka Rice! Nigel Mansell! Murray Walker not being very good but having a great time! And they do things like tank racing, digging and filling a ditch, rallying, artic truck reversing and of course the thrilling finale: tyre changing. It’s all rather jolly.

The next ep from 1987 is probably the weakest of the three in terms of events and celebs although does feature a more fun tank driving course and Gary Wilmot, and quite a fun blindfold driving event.

1989 is the best one of the lot, it’s set on Jersey and has the most fun 80s celebs (Barry McGuigan from boxing! Mark King from Level 42! Kathy Tayler from TV-am! Unfortunate disgraced celeb Philip Schofield!) has an excellent finale where not only do they have to change a tyre, but then pick a one of four different vehicles to make it across the causeway before the tide gets in and makes everything more difficult. Can be summed up with “Jonathan Palmer took his helicopter out last night to have a look at the course, but we got wind of it so we changed it.”

All rather good fun, and it’s quite sad that the none-more-80s-genre of “people racing around vehicles that you’ve never heard of” that things like this and Run The Gauntlet just sort of stopped around 1991. What the hell is a Hydrodisc (28 minutes in here)?

Show Discussion: The Answer Run

By | August 17, 2024
#hostfoldinghisarms

Weekdays, 4:30pm
BBC1

Christ a new format, how exciting this is for us.

And we’re hoping this is good fun, it looked quite fun from the trailer. Questions fall down the screen, contestants must swipe left or right to determine which of the two options the answer relates to. Get it right and bank the cash, bank the most cash of the three teams and play for the right to take it home in the final.

Whether there is much more to this remains to be seen, the clip suggests a more evolved Dis or Dat? but whether that’s enough to fill 45 minutes who knows. It certainly ought to have a certain amount of shoutability.

Let us know what you think in the comments.

The Influencer

By | August 8, 2024

I want to talk about The Influencer on Netflix. Because it is good.

The Influencer is a seven-episode long Korean survival variety reality show where 77 social media influencers compete for W300m (about £200,000). If you’ve watched many of these before you know the drill – a disembodied voice sets tasks on an incredible set, those who don’t make the cut after each round is eliminated, there’s usually a graphic with lots of faces on a board which go dark, we’ve all watched Squid Game and Physical 100. This one requires social media skill. I thought this would be quite dull but each of the rounds so far has been really interesting, there are proper gamey-game elements, there has been much more strategy than I had anticipated. Also, on occasion it’s absolutely brutal.

The first ep is a bit longer than the others because the first 20 minutes is introducing most of the contestants – you won’t need to remember them all, most of them will be going after round one and the editing does a good job of representing the main characters anyway. Each contestant wears an electronic collar revealing how many followers they have on their main social media account, ranging from 10s of thousands to almost 30m. The 300m Won is then split up proportionally between the contestants, replacing the figure on their collar. This is each contestant’s “worth” in the game. Having a high worth comes with advantages and breaks ties, but also means you might get targeted – the survivors inherit the value of anyone who gets knocked out.

Round one is dead simple – two hours, and everyone has 15 likes and 15 dislikes to give to other contestants. Each collar also has a NFC chip which unlocks a introductory video each contestant has made. Everyone begins fishing for compliments, like swapping and the like, but they also start disliking the high value players in the belief that this will eliminate them – only 30 people will survive this round. Players phones go off whenever they get a like or a dislike but they aren’t told who from. An hour in the stage is set up so people can show off their talents, immediately earning dislikes from anyone who dares to do so. However one contestant, who can’t seem to get any likes, wonders if everyone’s got the game wrong and it isn’t about solely getting likes but getting noticed, so dislikes are actually a good thing to get. A few other people spot this tactic, but is it enough? Lots of interesting things to say about the nature of ego, self-belief, acceptance, rejection.

Round two will reduce 30 contestants to 15 and involves setting up a live stream lasting 60 minutes in the first instance and up to 50 minutes on top of that – the interest here is the short form whizzes have lots of followers but are unused to holding people’s attention for that long. Everyone gets their own streaming pod and they can do what they want. They also have the option of inviting a guest for 30 minutes, although the tactic of when to deploy them is on them. During the initial 60 minutes, a viewer count is taken every ten minutes, the numbers are averaged, the top five go straight through to round three, the bottom five are eliminated. Part two is a sprint, every five minutes a count is taken, the person with the highest viewer count ends their stream and survives, the lowest viewer count is immediately eliminated. Really interesting game, seeing what techniques people can use to get and keep their numbers up, how far they’re willing to go, the nature of parasocial relationships and so on. My one criticism is more than any other round, how you do in this one is going to be largely determined by how big your following already was going into it

Round three starts off absolutely brutally. It’s played in teams of two and to determine who those teams are, starting with the person with the lowest “worth”, they will stand in a cube and get auctioned off to the other players. The amount someone wants to pay to work with someone else is transferred to that person. It is quite possible to get no bids. The other twist to this game is that with 15 people one person will not partner up and that person is immediately eliminated so there’s a strategy element.

The round proper is built around taking photos. Seven different environmental sets have been built for pairs to create photos in. Teams must initially create the best photo they can in 60 minutes. HOWEVER, you can submit a photo sooner, and doing so lets you choose where it will be placed on a 3×3 grid. This grid will then be shown to 100 random people having their eyes tracked for seven seconds. Whichever photo commands the least attention will eliminate that team, with their money being split and added to the team whose photo attracted the most attention. Creativity potential vs placement strategy is really interesting! This will be played three times leaving eight people but unfortunately this is where the first tranche of episodes ends, the remaining three will go out on Tuesday.

It’s extremely stylish and has a number of intriguing characters and I’m fascinated to see what the final two rounds involve. Definitely worth a look.

Patrice Laffont

By | August 7, 2024

I was going to write about new Korean Netflix show The Influencer this afternoon, but I’ve just been hit with the news that the host, actor and producer Patrice Laffont died this morning two weeks shy of his 85th birthday so I’ll save it for the weekend (it’s good).

We of course knew him best as the host of Fort Boyard during the 1990s. As with many long-running shows, you probably liked the era you grew up with it the best, and for the 13-year-old me chancing across it on TV5, Patrice and Cendrine will probably always be the show’s most iconic pairing. There was palpable excitement at the prospect of the two of them reuniting to take on the Fort as one of two 35th anniversary specials set to be broadcast later in the year, even if there is always going to be a question mark on what sort of games you could expect an 84 year-old to be playing. That episode when it goes out will, I expect, be poignant.

But of course there is more to his work than a decade hosting Fort Boyard, alongside his film and theatre acting work, we’ll know him also as the original long-time host and eventually producer of Des Chiffres et Des Lettres, host of French Pyramid/Password mash-up Pyramide and a rather surprising turn (until someone told us of his love of card games) as the dealer/host of a poker tournament show on French channel D8.

Here’s the legendary episode from 1997 where pan-European boyband World’s Apart took on the fort mainly in English:

Edit: The 35th anniversary special episode he is a contestant in has been moved up to next Wednesday night (14th August), a documentary tribute is set to go out in September.